Comments on: The Swedes get frozen out http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/ The greatest writers on the world of cars from the BBC's Top Gear Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:04:27 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mike B from Normandy http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-3827 Mike B from Normandy Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:48:31 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-3827 SAAB have always been the choice for individuals that do not follow the German trend, and frequently once you own one you are hooked. The 9-3 Sports Hatch is a very good looking car as well as being a pleaseure to drive. So I agree with other comments here and wish especially SAAB and of course Volvo good luck in the future. I have voted with my feet and bought a 9-3 sports hatch recenntly. SAAB have always been the choice for individuals that do not follow the German trend, and frequently once you own one you are hooked. The 9-3 Sports Hatch is a very good looking car as well as being a pleaseure to drive. So I agree with other comments here and wish especially SAAB and of course Volvo good luck in the future. I have voted with my feet and bought a 9-3 sports hatch recenntly.

]]> By: mantas http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-3663 mantas Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:50:44 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-3663 I like both SAAB and volvos because they are different.. they are not so dull/boring as cars from japan maybe except subaru (but still this car doesn't get ride comfort and the quality/design of interior is awful) ok of course you don't care about that if you buy impreza wrx sti.. but it's very different player than SAAB and volvo.. think about french cars.. wouldn't you be afraid to go for a holliday with one of those? with all those strange technical solutions they have.. design is other thing in french cars.. sometimes it seems they want to make just something different from other cars but don't think about the people who will drive them.. ok german cars.. they are not boring some of them even look good! technicaly they are ok too.. but when you sit in a german car.. you can feel something is missing.. it's something not for human beings.. I think it should be forbiden to drive a children in one of those.. they can turn in to a monsters after some time:) and it's very different about swedish cars.. because they are made for humans and for families.. maybe in some points they are not the best.. but in every or most points they are good or very good and they are balanced.. that's what's is missing in a lot of modern cars.. good luck SAAB and volvo! I like both SAAB and volvos because they are different.. they are not so dull/boring as cars from japan maybe except subaru (but still this car doesn’t get ride comfort and the quality/design of interior is awful) ok of course you don’t care about that if you buy impreza wrx sti.. but it’s very different player than SAAB and volvo.. think about french cars.. wouldn’t you be afraid to go for a holliday with one of those? with all those strange technical solutions they have.. design is other thing in french cars.. sometimes it seems they want to make just something different from other cars but don’t think about the people who will drive them.. ok german cars.. they are not boring some of them even look good! technicaly they are ok too.. but when you sit in a german car.. you can feel something is missing.. it’s something not for human beings.. I think it should be forbiden to drive a children in one of those.. they can turn in to a monsters after some time:) and it’s very different about swedish cars.. because they are made for humans and for families.. maybe in some points they are not the best.. but in every or most points they are good or very good and they are balanced.. that’s what’s is missing in a lot of modern cars.. good luck SAAB and volvo!

]]> By: AngryPostmanSthlm http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-3454 AngryPostmanSthlm Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:44:59 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-3454 Yes its wrong thread! but what the gnnnff? Cant find it so justhave to say something and Proberbly get stalked by half europe and in front V.A.G concerns "GottaShutHimUp" - squad. Just saw the golf punkvideo..or lets say this 1st: I am an old Vagfan and not just a "hater". When watch the vid first thing (sorry god youre not a thing,you got a name)popped up in my mind was God of Odd himself, Mr. Hans Dalhlberg.... You all know what i mean right? VAG's ignorance of the by sheer intrest and feeling / sense of thinking how parts react in all of the endless possibilyties to compensate things changed wanted but still keep things alraedy achived in place. Plus all other knowlegde unvalueble for carconstruction ....A dynamic Pc that over all static numbers,can choose the odd lil change cause it FEELS right etc etc.. Should probasrbly had that video with a driveable (maybe even hard to intensly do an "overweighted Elvisbutt") car, But ofcourse its prestigedraining to listen to the humbleness personified that went home and with ofcourse some clawmarks on the wall however already made a car fully potent to do anything (Ok,many still sure havent picked their chins up yet trying to swallow words like fool,stuuuupid,imposssible...) First to get that silly almost unesscary black hole power that make me smile-torque!??!! Second: Let him talk n try to against all...ALL+ it should be, natural laws get it to the ground. truly words that day: was ist los was ist los???????? Third: It never gonna be possible make it keep toghether ...... the rest is history. thanks Hasse youre so hilarious insane that I lose my podiumplace (not for i build cars) but as people say im probly the craziest citizen. And the laidback,totally humble way you got pimped by an accent from Dalarna wich like Piteåaccent make me fall in love as soon a dalagirl open her mounth. *:j *sending a tearful thought to Sanna from Norrvik* <3 Yes its wrong thread! but what the gnnnff?
Cant find it so justhave to say something and Proberbly get stalked by half europe and in front V.A.G concerns “GottaShutHimUp” – squad.

Just saw the golf punkvideo..or lets say this 1st: I am an old Vagfan and not just a “hater”.

When watch the vid first thing (sorry god youre not a thing,you got a name)popped up in my mind was God of Odd himself, Mr. Hans Dalhlberg….

You all know what i mean right?
VAG’s ignorance of the by sheer intrest and feeling / sense of thinking how parts react in all of the endless possibilyties to compensate things changed wanted but still keep things alraedy achived in place.
Plus all other knowlegde unvalueble for carconstruction ….A dynamic Pc that over all static numbers,can choose the odd lil change cause it FEELS right etc etc..

Should probasrbly had that video with a driveable (maybe even hard to intensly do an “overweighted Elvisbutt”) car,
But ofcourse its prestigedraining to listen to
the humbleness personified that went home and
with ofcourse some clawmarks on the wall however
already made a car fully potent to do anything

(Ok,many still sure havent picked their chins up yet trying to swallow words like fool,stuuuupid,imposssibl e…)

First to get that silly almost unesscary black hole power that make me smile-torque!??!!

Second: Let him talk n try to against all…ALL+ it should be, natural laws get it to the ground.

truly words that day: was ist los was ist los????????

Third: It never gonna be possible make it keep toghether ……

the rest is history.

thanks Hasse youre so hilarious insane that I lose my podiumplace (not for i build cars) but as people say im probly the craziest citizen.

And the laidback,totally humble way you got pimped by an accent from Dalarna wich like Piteåaccent make me fall in love as soon a dalagirl open her mounth. *:j

*sending a tearful thought to Sanna from Norrvik* <3

]]> By: Belgium says http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1929 Belgium says Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:55:20 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1929 Volvo are great cars! Better than any Ford, Chrysler, etc. Well made and great looking, even after years! Not a car for a fashion addict, but it's a brand with a mind of his own, everybody knows the 'volvo' brand, it's a big nasty dinosaur! Volvo are great cars! Better than any Ford, Chrysler, etc. Well made and great looking, even after years! Not a car for a fashion addict, but it’s a brand with a mind of his own, everybody knows the ‘volvo’ brand, it’s a big nasty dinosaur!

]]> By: J. Stevens http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1880 J. Stevens Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:51:24 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1880 It's odd that volvos aren't better rated in this country, they offer some proper status free motoring. Besides, the ford parts bin isn't a bad place to rummage around in these days. It's Saab I'm impressed with though, their range of cars has a better perceived quality than the GM motors they're related to. Maybe the answer is to follow the other great Swede business model, flat pack cars. It's working for Caterham et al... It’s odd that volvos aren’t better rated in this country, they offer some proper status free motoring. Besides, the ford parts bin isn’t a bad place to rummage around in these days. It’s Saab I’m impressed with though, their range of cars has a better perceived quality than the GM motors they’re related to. Maybe the answer is to follow the other great Swede business model, flat pack cars. It’s working for Caterham et al…

]]> By: mr t welshboy http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1672 mr t welshboy Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:32:28 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1672 I am sorry but how many Volvos and Saabs do you see in this country? I am sorry but how many Volvos and Saabs do you see in this country?

]]> By: knew it-said it. http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1297 knew it-said it. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:47:33 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1297 Swedish cars don't have a chance. How can you place Volvo or Saab in the same league with BMW?! The Swedish thought they could live alone in their country alone with their own cars. They had their chance for greatness but they were not clever enough. They are the only ones buying them. If you want to be an international company you must think internationally. Swedish cars don’t have a chance.
How can you place Volvo or Saab in the same league with BMW?!
The Swedish thought they could live alone in their country alone with their own cars.
They had their chance for greatness but they were not clever enough.
They are the only ones buying them.
If you want to be an international company you must think internationally.

]]> By: Smith http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1295 Smith Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:00:42 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1295 The Focus and Mondeo are better cars their sisters from Volvo... The V70 for instance is just a Mondeo Estate, wich they have ruined the great handling on, to suit some 95-year old men with a troublesome spine. The Focus and Mondeo are better cars their sisters from Volvo… The V70 for instance is just a Mondeo Estate, wich they have ruined the great handling on, to suit some 95-year old men with a troublesome spine.

]]> By: sean http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1292 sean Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:20:46 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1292 i hope this is not the end . i hope this is not the end .

]]> By: Eduardo http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2008/12/02/the-swedes-get-frozen-out/#comment-1290 Eduardo Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:35:37 +0000 http://bbcforeman.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-1290 in fact, Volvo doesn't loss millions, and it was the only profitable brand among the former Ford's Premier Automotive Group. however there's an arguable lack of personality among their cars, once the C30/S40/V50 are just upscale Focus and the V70/S80 are boring Mondeos. have you checked the soon-to-be-replaced S60, the last car developed with no Ford engineering? it still looks great, and it seems to be a modern classic. it would be great if its successor was Ford-free... in fact, Volvo doesn’t loss millions, and it was the only profitable brand among the former Ford’s Premier Automotive Group.

however there’s an arguable lack of personality among their cars, once the C30/S40/V50 are just upscale Focus and the V70/S80 are boring Mondeos.

have you checked the soon-to-be-replaced S60, the last car developed with no Ford engineering? it still looks great, and it seems to be a modern classic. it would be great if its successor was Ford-free…

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