seems like chrysler have hit the spot with this one, but at the end of the day its still a chrysler and that badge is certainly not going to flood about the European market enough but the hip hoppers may have a new set of wheels.

I hope this works out for them but as it says Chrysler in 2010 seems like a long shot. Unless they no something we dont!!

i agree would look way better in black

No one under 35, with the cash, will buy this car- v8, v6 doesn’t matter. I bet if you look at the ratio of mpg:bph this car will be crap compared to any German saloon. Any car looks good in black with large wheels even a Panda 100hp!! – if the most novel thing in this car is the Internet- which is on my iPhone for free- then Chrysler is more screwed than I even wish them to be! They need a competitor to Mini, Fiat 500 that shows they uderstand the modern world and the economical and ecological squeeze we’re in..
I want good performance, smart looks and a reasonable mpg when I’ve not got my foot buried into the carpet. This car has none of that- it’s just a trumped up chrysler neon from the 90’s..

it costs too much to make

it sells for too little

its too big

the performance is too little

the engines are out-dated

and other than black, the colours are too boring

…..in my opinion, it sucks

For the european market this is a waste of time. Since the last-gen went on sale i’ve only seen one 300c to date. Americains however will love it. They will put ridiculously huge wheels on it and cruise around acting cool. Like the last one it looks good but that’s where the last one went wrong. It was heavier than a Land Rover, the porformance was blunt, the suspension was unbelievebly soft and when you went round a corner, it felt like you were turning a barge. I’m guessing the price will be around £30,000. So it’s this or a fully specced Focus RS, hmmm… tricky decision.

… BTW, a fully specced Ford Focus RS costs around £28,500

Chrysler does a few things right.
This, the Viper, their minivans, large pickup trucks, the now-defunct Neon ACR, and the Jeep line (Liberty excluded). These have all got style, and a hefty amount of street cred in their respective niches.

The problem is, their cred is in niches. They don’t have anything to compete with mass-market bread-and-butter cars. They have no Camry, Fit/Jazz, or Focus.

Just because Chrysler may one day produce a halfway decent car is no reason to save the whole damned company!
If they’d been making decent, modern, efficient cars for the last 30 years, they wouldn’t be standing in front of the tax payer with a cup in their hand.
Simply put: “We don’t OWE them diddly!”. They brought this on themselves.

I’d rather buy an used Mercedes than this one.

…and a Merz wouldn’t be my first choice either

I like it’s exterior. Everything else is rubbish, at least for Europe. Too big, too heavy, too much powerfull for national limits, etc. And I like Voyagers. Actually, mine, from ‘97. Inside it’s like in plane (not business class), whole family can fit, even all sister’s bags too, it steers easily, you are sitting high, see perfectly road, etc… Nice one.
Maybe they could save themselves, if they make their goals more down to earth, like making only for US. market.

Sirs, take a look at the newer(ish) pic they showed at the NYIAS today.
http://jalopnik.com/52038 44/2010-chrysler-300c-int erior-gets-massive-touchs creen
Granted a terrible pic, but there’s more to come. Soon hopefully.

Much say I’m a huge fan of the 300C.

Much nicer car than an SUV/MPV/Boring-german-sal oon

Its a sad thing: Chrysler ask the taxpayers for money ($25,000,000,000 and more maybe coming) from the governments and pledge to build more fuel efficient, market appealing, and frankly better cars. With that money they create “improvements” like this… This car may have been designed with these features years before but they could not even have have bothered to do what they pledged to improve on the car as one of its BIG FEATURES.

btw, link from homepage to this post is wrong. it keeps sending me somewhere in cupholder.

I think this new 300C is not as good looking as the old one. Especially the front, which is too slick and too ’smooth’, it misses the lumps of the old one, which made it look sturdy. This looks like it will crack if you crash into a big bumblebee… The new car as a whole is too shiny, and too much like the new Voyager, too. But who knows, a lot can happen before 2010. Maybe they will get it right in time?

The old one looked way way better. And it was an E-Class underneath. This new one looks too much similar to the Voyager and the Kia Magentis. At least I hope they’ll get some wing mirrors by 2010.

300C’s are taxis in singapore…enuff said

The interior looks hideous, as usual.

very cool, although the front grille is a bit too mercedessy for my liking: the beehive pattern looks much better…

One thing though: as for reasons to save Chrysler, you seem to forget an even greater one – the Dodge Challenger!

Hideous.

The original looked way better. This is just the same but styled to look politically correct. And that’s why it’s wrong. Chrysler is not about that stuff, especially the 300C is all about concrete overshoes, paid protection and visiting Sicily – a true familycar. Internet won’t do it either, since you really don’t want GPS-tracking in your car. The carpet in the boot is nice, though. Easy to wash too. : )
So as a possible saviour for the company this one’s no good at all. It’s got nothing going on that’s in any way efficient and it’s not suited to it’s targeted customer.

If Fiat doesn’t step in, Chrysler goes down. Period.

Whenever I see one of these I think “what sort of idiot would spec those wheels on a Bentley?”

Then I notice the Chrysler badge.

Too right, it’s a poor man’s 5-series and an even poorer man’s Bentley. Vulgar, cheaply built, plastic-fantastic nonsense from a company that has done nothing to deserve survival.

it’s all wrong, it needs to be more sturdy, shaped with an axe like the old one, with a bit of bentley-ish lines and something reminding the family style (dodge have the cross but chrysler?)
the interior looks ok in jalopnik and sucks here so probably needs some work.

It seems to be getting styling cues from the new Toyota Avensis. Need I say more?

It’s ok, and that is the problem.

For a little bit more, you can have an Audi A6, BMW 5 series, or even a Jaguar XF which remember is getting that amazing new diesel engine.

These cars are not OK, they are amazing. The only reason to buy a 300C is to look “cool” in front of your mates. You would be sick to death of the suspension, interior, engine etc etc after a few months and wish you had gone with one of the rivals.

And come on, when will the Americans learn how to make a good interior?

Kilroy.
The ONLY reason ALL the car companies are asking TAXPAYERS/ GOVERNMENTS for money is that the BANKS will NOT lend to them OR US (Whatever uncapability Brown says) until THEY (The banks) rebuild their balance sheets.
IF THE BANKS LENT MONEY then the car companies would not be asking.
As to their models, it takes a LONG TIME, a VERY LONG TIME to create new models from scratch and they takes an awful lot of money which at the moment chrysler (and the OTHERS) just do not have…..Thus the updating of existing models (much cheaper!)

Just got back from the US of A. Had the 300c as my hire car, Big very big, spacious powerful takes an hour to get to 15mph then goes like stink (for something that size)enormous boot space room for Ooh maybe 2 bodies. Gave about 22mpg (us gal)all in all a goodie.

That car is a joke over here. All you see are homies driving them and putting Bentley grills on them and 22″ rims.

I’m old. Like in real old. I had the original 300C back in ‘57 and got a ticket for going 130 outside of Vegas (clocked from a goddam plane above the highway) but this beast smoked dam near everything, and this in the day when hot rods roamed supreme. Summing up: this car was invented as a screaming red hot dominating road racer with no peer at the time. But Chrysler being Chrysler they just let the thing die without improving it and fifty years later they come out with the same car but in a world of 150mph road cars that look great and drive even greater. The 300C is the best car ever built in 1957, this was when MCB was referred to as “Hitler’s Car,” the Porche was called a Nazi tribute, and the Jap cars were still buried in the rubble of Tarawa and Heroshima. That was then.

think the car not to bad,some of these comments are a joke tho.its different to the usual fashion statements that come from germany,boring audi,common as muck bmw & old man merc.

as to number 17,singapore taxi.how many mercs and audi’s are running around this country with an asylum seeker taxi driver behind the wheel.come on give the thing a chance.

I’m not up with what happened that caused Daimler to dump Chrysler; but it seemed they intended to ignore improving the complete model line. Some did benefit like the 300C having parts from Merc’s E class. I’d say another good reason for Chrysler to live on is the new Challenger. I do hope the deal with Fiat works. That will help significantly for a small car line that Chrysler needs to desparately improve.

First of all, the 300c isn’t designed to meet european likes or qualifications. It was designed for flag waving americans like me. We love big, powerful and stylish vehicles. This car has been stylish since day one, and the new design continues the tradition. For a vehicle this size and with a hemi engine, 22mpg isn’t that bad. You must remember that only in the last couple of years have the American auto manufacturers really started to improve on gas mileage. Our government hasn’t forced big improvements in gas mileage and therefore cars manufactured for sale mainly in the U.S. don’t get the same mileage as european models. Big changes to improve gas mileage won’t happen overnite, and huge gas mileage improvements won’t happen until our government approves legislature to force it. Some laws regarding improvement have passed, but unfortunately they don’t yet require our cars to have the same stingent standards as yours. Untill then, most of us who can afford to pay about 36,000 U.S. dollars for a fully equipped Hemi powered 300c think it’s a totally awesome ride!

The interior is all right but the exterior is crap. I like the older one more. But the 300M was the nicest one.

i live in canada so i see these cars alot, some ppl do pimp them out n i can tell u right now that they dun realy work that much right now, so this one will have no chance, its headlights rn’t as agresive and it looks more profesional

looks proper shite

i must say that interior does look very nice but they probably aren’t going to make it like that are they.

Doesn’t look that great, worse than the current 300C in fact. Interior looks a little like the new Nissan 370Z crossed with a Honda Accord. Not to my taste at all.

tyipcal american car looks good, build quality is crap after 2-3 years it starts to fall apart arround you.

Chrysler was dumped by Daimler in 2007. The “merger of equals” started in 1998. Why did Daimler buy Chrysler if THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH IT? If the Germans are so good at building cars, why couldn’t they design better cars for the US? I’d bet that the only “new” car since Daimler left is the Challenger.
Bob Lutz saw the writing on the wall back in 98 and left for GM. Granted GM isn’t making money either, but the Malibu is getting good press, and even Captain Slow liked that Caddy last summer.
So let’s put some of the blame on the Germans for Chrysler’s present situation.

…a note to Shamzahm…. take a look at any quality survey Chrysler 300C’s do Not appear high on any of them. period. company has a bad rep? hmmm they are broke so it would appear they are deserving of it.. Have you even sat in a current 300C? I sat in a showroom example, not even delivered yet, and the plastics were mismatched and badly fitted, not to mention hard and cheap to the touch, the switch gear had all the quality appeal of a vinyl sandal and the leather the closest match to plastic I have ever seen…
These are built to a budget – after 2-3 years they are tired and battered unless you treat them with kid-gloves every time….

They look pimpin, sound mean, but lack any smarts, Try looking at it this way. Would sales increase if Chrysler applied the euro method of tech to these cars? Is this what Daimler aimed to do? If an M3 sedan can look fat and mean, can carry 4 adults, handles like its on rails, and doesnt loosen fillings along the way and just incidentally achieves 400 odd HP from a 4 Litre motor, why is anyone excited by the same output in a 6.2 Litre Hemi, is one dimensional enough to be comfortable but corners like my grandmothers camry with a flat tyre…

Could Chrysler build a north american car to take the fight to europe?

Yes they can.

My belief is that two things stand between any of these manufacturers and success… Greed and Ego… None of these problems are new.

hmmm,seems like soooo many people must be from europe.their roads are too small to drive such a beast.yes it is made from a poor shaped company.but lets face it.ALL car manufactures are suffering.lets see,remember back awhile ago when english builders got too greedy and the car builders went bust.still recooping huh.chryco was helped out by ford in the 80’s.and oh yes,jaguar,who owns them now?still ford? who owns saab ? audi ? blah blah blah.who cars.nobody.lets just get all the companys to make viable vehicles for their respected regions and buyers.buy 4×4 chev truck in downtown manhatten,why? how about a hummer in paris? cant see it.so the little roads of europe have little cars and not to mention,the fuel milleage isnt that much better.big deal.how much are we talking about for a full tank difference,maybe 5 dollars ? if the chyrco company cant sell small cars,then dont make em.like jaguar making pick ups.so if the europe market is going to drive the north american market.then move here and do it.or shut the blow horns and worry bout your own auto makers.try buying a bimmer here and keep up with maintnance,wow.go broke in no time.mercedes have a great car.and so does alot of company.north americans have a passion for muscle cars,and always will.most dont want a cute little car.cute cars are built crappy and ya HAVE to replace them all the time.we live in harsh conditions and need sturdy cars to rely on.

hey aussie liscious,
good call.if ya think any north american car company can get there ass out of their heads,and look at the f1 or indy car racing and the technoligies they are applying.they are too busy padding their wallets.

First off to many of the people who replied, your WRONG. I live in Canada, and therefore i have a pretty good idea what ppl here like. Generally its crap, Which would make this a big seller. Personally I hate it, hated the old one, which looks like this less some shine. But the majority of idiots over here in N america will love it. They don’t know performance, especially outside of a straight line, and quality depends on the number of cupholders. There only is ‘leather’ or cloth. They don’t understand fit and finish, stitching etc etc. So I think this would do very well. Won’t because it will never be made, God bless, Obama lets chrysler die. But if it was made it would sell. Fuel economy here is anything over 20 mpg or forget the numbers altogether and look for some ECO badge. and Diesel doesn’t exist outside of Heavy trucks.

On my own note. I really do think the interiour is an all new low!

What’s that wood finish colour called on the interior? I saw it somewhere in my bathroom this morning. Hmm, can’t seem to remember where. Anyway. Overall it looks like a pile of overpolished nickel coated shite, so it should go down a storm. The real risk for people with taste is that if Obama has his way Chrysler will merge with (get bought by) Fiat, and until Fiat realise the grave error they made, like Daimler before them, and sell (un-merge with) Chrysler to somebody with a financial deathwish, these cars will be (gag) built.

It will probably be made of plastic like all chryslers.

Saab has a queue of potential buyers, Chrysler doesn’t.
Anybody that tried both understands why.

nice but ugly as f**k

I think comment 36 sums up the exterior nicely.

Also, whilst the interior FEATURES are all nice and lovely, the QUALITY will still suffer. And most Europeans (that can afford it/have a license at least) will still never take it seriously, what with XFs and Beemers. Footballers maybe, but not normal, intelligent people. And actually, now that it looks boring, maybe not even them.

this is going to be funny, C’mon Johnny-boys have your say about the damn sardine boxes of the europeans and their narrow roads. “those fiat engines are smaller than my lighter” “yah, man!”
I’ll love this.

‘What do ya mean ‘manual’ gearbox. You’re insane man!!!’

It looks nice put i`m wondering how heavy it is in kilos?
You see this part of Europe where the road taxes is a Big Bummer for a American cars they go by wieght here the heavyer the car the more you have to pay this gose every 3 months youll have to pay and not too mention the insureance ETC..

i do not like that car its 2 flashy .But then again i like FERRARI’S.

As an American, I hate this car, every wannabe pimp, gangster, and old man drives one with a “Bentley” grille and “DUBS”. The car itself is a very nice design, and it does remind me of a time when Chrysler was synonymous luxury. Now it just makes me think of gold teeth, and shows like MTV Cribs.

No, no , no. I don’t like one bit. I prefer the old model. It doesn’t matter though, Chrysler isn’t properly the most selling car in Europe. I don’t to upset anybody by saying this, but there isn’t one good American. Maybe 2 or 3 good cars, but the rest is rubbish, and if this is model that Chrysler think’s it’s going to save them, they are going to have a big disappointment.

So far as real gangsters go, i have a feeling this car will be passed up by the hip-hop crowd similarly to how the 93 Monte Carlo just does not draw the same crowd as its earlier variants. People in general, whether its little old ladies or true to life thugs loved the styling of the original 300C and its sister cars (Magnum and Charger) and this one is just way too toned down, PC, and awkward. All i can hope is that the drawing shown isn’t the finalized design. The headlights in particular kill the car, way too “look at me I’m a Chrysler, my headlights look sophisticated and content!!PLEASE BUY ME!”

“look at me I’m a Chrysler, my headlights look sophisticated and content!!PLEASE BUY ME!”
LOL yeah they do look like they’re saying that, it’s funny what different people pick up on. The comment about the leather being like plastic is true. Most American car companies idea of leather and wood trim seems to be shiny, thin and tacky. It’s like they don’t care about the actual function, integrity or ergonomics of anything, everything just has to tick a box and fulfill a purpose.
Shame.

I think people will pay extra for good design, ergonomics and quality over a competitor.
Just look at the IPOD.

To my eye the earlier version looked as if it was trying desperatly to be a Bently, this looks as if they can’t quite make up their minds what they want. The ‘piped’ internet might just be it’s saving grace but I’m worried that it’s a car designed for passengers rather than drivers.

having owned a few from the brand – crossfire/Jeep grande-cherokee and the last being a 300c(2008 model). their are fabulous, i would still have the 300c were it not for the impending will they / wont they situation. The biggest reason for getting shot of the 300c though was when i found they were no longer available from any dealer within 100 Miles range, when 6 months ago there were 3 main dealers.
the new one looks even better, and yes if there were a dealer network still about i certainly would have no doubt about buying another.
Prior to my move to the americal market in cars i owned 11 mercedes and i must say that the chryslers build quality and bang for your £ was far superior to the latter mercs i had.

@f1fanatic: true about european roads being smaller. We also got corners btw. But we got a lot of cars the size of 300C’s and nowadays they do 40mpg or better. With much better performance and build quality. They just look a lot more modest. What attracts us in US cars is that they don’t. There’re quite a few 300C’s over here and they don’t look out of place. Hummers and Escalades look more than lifesize.

Chrysler sucks!

Extraordinary a car that had Air Co since 1946 Cheers

Americans never get it when they make a car do they? it’s big and don’t do corners,like it’s made out of scrap!

Euros don’t get it either. UK industry is gone, French are hat in hand to their gov’t, Itals aren’t familiar with reliability, which leaves only the Germans. BMW continues to push the acceptable limits of awkward styling, VW is ranked 2nd to last behind Suzuki in quality, and M-B is the very Corp that ran Chrysler into the ground. Time to let the Japanese and Koreans teach the rest of us how to build a car.

UGA, I don’t know what you have been smoking but did you just say VW was rated low in terms of Quality? Excuse me? Have you BEEN in a VWAG made car in the last 20 years or more? Even there Budget brand – Skoda – builds cars of equal or superior quality to all of the non VWAG main stream brands. Mercedes did not run Chrysler into the ground, it ran itself into the ground despite massive injections of Merc’s money and technical expertise. They got fed up of making year upon year of losses from it and wisely dumped it. As for the UK industry being gone? Erm, you do know Jaguar’s sales actually went UP last year right? And that a large proportion of “Japanese” cars in Europe are built here or in France? Designed in Japan sure, built here. And as for the French going cap in hand to the government, here is a little secret: Everybody is.

…Hooligan cars bring car hooliganism out.

Yay, let’s all either buy or burn a 300… or both

(still sorry for the workers, but… c’mon, it’s one of those cars that you have to be in love with from the beginning to consider buying).

how many ppl know that merzes and fiats have many parts in common already, therefore maybe chryslers as well?
aaah, it’s suuuch a subcontract world.

PS now I get why fiat was delaying the renovation of its ageing limo line (hope they ditch this design to adopt a Thesis evolution one.. a bit cheesy as well, but somehow classier)

Since when has Jag been a UK concern? The 1980s? Have you any recollection of 1980s Jags? The Americans saved Jag’s quality, and the Indians will save Jag as a business concern. That may give you discomfort, but it’s true.

VW has a great business model, but VW owners put the brand at the bottom of the Power reliability survey. Sad but true.

Americans care about quality just as much as anyone else, which is why the Japanese have done so well, and the French and FIAT don’t sell cars there anymore. And there are plenty of Asian and European factories in the US as well, but plant location is about labor and currency issues.

And M-B owned Chrysler, it’s condition worsened under their ownership, so M-B bears the resonibility. That’s basic accountability.

So I’m not smoking anything; I just think that Europeans or Americans flag-waving because of what a multi-national car company does is ridiculous.

UGA, you get the main point (at least IMO): FIAT is a private group, ALFA was a state company before FIAT bought it… as VW is private, now that it’s owned by Porsche, etc. etc.

In general “car pride” in Europe is applied to state owned companies, which have all been swallowed by private groups; now many FIAT engineers are german, and many BMW r&d engineers are Italian, therefore we usually perceive it’s quite pointless to apply a “my flag pride” to any car brand.

The last car I can be proud of “as Italian” is the ALFA 75, which is one of the best cars that came out in the 80’s… one day I will get one restore it, and keep it in my shrine exactly like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino. In the meantime I wouldn’t use what is written in my documents when I have to decide what to drive.

the old one looked ‘old school’ this one looks like all other bits of american rubbish being made these days

Hmmm…Where to begin? I have come to think that Europeans will hate anything made in the US. Is it our fault that gas is cheaper? Should all cars be Minis and 500s? I know you’ll all scream at me, but I drive an 07 Dodge Durango 4×4 5.7 Hemi. I have 3 kids and tow stuff at times. The Hyundai Santa Fe was getting too small. I also have and 05 Hyundai Accent, which I drive most of the time. Have the Big 3 been building the wrong cars? How did GM get to #1 and now #2? I know you all can’t wait to attack me, the dumb Yank.

It got to #1 buy taking huge loans and buying up many loss making car industries, Saab, Volvo etc. It made more cars then any other company but was unable to make any consistent profit and now can’t keep its huge, unstable conglomerate afloat.

@72
I don’t hate everything made in the usa. There’s a lot of great stuff made there, but cars aren’t one of them. That’s all.
For the “little european cars” we build them because we need them. And it’s more difficult to make a good small car than a big sedan.
Just to be clear, hyundais aren’t either japanese or european or american, so why you got two of those (and why o why you got an accent???)?
Also gm and ford started after the war(ww2) with a lot of money and the best technology, and they made good car in the foreign line (opel, uk ford, that stuff) they bought a lot of foreign makers for nothing and ruined some of them recently (opel, saab…). Also the u.s. buyer it’s very affectionate to national brand but nevertheless asian cars are a bit of a nightmare for them, selling more and more in national market.
So, since you like questions, why now they’re all burst, and why rich people go for a foreign car?

I know Hyundai is Korean. Why is it more difficult to make a good small car? The Accent was a good deal, and the mpg is pretty good, that’s why I bought it. I do wish GM and Ford sold their Euro cars here. They a lot cooler. As far as rich people going for foreign cars?, I don’t know. The US doesn’t make any super high end cars. But, Cadillac is making much better cars, like the CTS. I could also care less because I can’t afford those cars anyways. What does Europe offer to the US that is affordable, other then VW? Smart cars, what do you think about those? I don’t like them.

Ok UGA, seriously. Jaguar is now (now being the present time) designed and built in the UK. The new XK and the brilliant XF have been designed in the UK, by Ian Callum. (who is British) VW is known as the brand that brought competition and build quality back to the D segment and C segment cars. Do not try to judge the French cars by the standard with which you judge any other, because traditionally they whistle to their own tune and you won’t get it until you drive a French car in France. And as far as American brands are concerned, they used to have a certain set of values. It doesn’t matter if we get them here in Europe or not. American cars aren’t even preferable in America when judged by American standards. I don’t imagine any car enthusiast doesn’t think of the golden era of the original Mustangs, Camaros, Stingrays, Eldorados and Impalas with moist eyes, but with the companies hurtling towards the ground at 500mph (in a straight line), the recent muscle car revival seems like the flashy action sequence just before a cheap thriller ends.

chrysler have ruined the 300C, this will not be a big, bad, black cruiser.Its gonna be crap

aston martin 1-77’s betta

The old 300C had styling cues that hinted at not just Bentley; there were hints at the old Rover P5B (I think)Coupe in there as well. I would still have bricked it if Vinny Jones pulled up next to me in the old 300C – I can’t imagine him in the new one.

Chrysler have not learned a thing; if you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got. Building cars with agricultural, big-is-beautiful engineering and with crap finish isn’t going to cut it from here on in. There’s no innovation in this car, even an early 90s Lexus would be a better bet in terms of quality.

Second; I know fuel is cheap as chips in the USA, however, if you suddenly go onto a four day working week (as I have since last October) then the difference between 20mpg and 45mpg is major – do you drive to work or eat? Tough call…

This latest version is about as stylish and “street” as Tim Westwood…. maybe he had a hand in the “slammin’” design, or maybe someone in the design department at Chrysler had to sell the ruler, in order to feed his family…

Where fuel is cheaper people could get cheap to run cars anyway and spend more elsewhere, I’ve never got the point about that argument.
“since fuel is cheap I can afford inefficient vehicles” (or home heating) doesn’t sound precisely a good long term household administration plan since at least 30 ys ago… unless coming from someone that has petrol in his own field. Considering that the very expensive renewable power generators efficient the most that we produce are mainly sold in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi pay some of us quite a big amount of cash to develop self-powering skyscrapers with built-in wind turbines, for instance, and it doesn’t sound something stupid to do a tiny bit, cause it doesn’t matter who will be the last one to have petrol, since at this pace it will finish within next generation. Those that will not be wise about this topic will have their children blame them for a lot of things, and they will be very right. (this said even without using any environmental or exploitation-of-military criticism argument).

That said, it’s not illegal to buy this 300, but it definitely would be crazy to produce more of them than the ones that will be sold… and my electric guitar is made in USA by American artisans: “pseudo-anti-americanisms ” really is anti-senslessness. And a Porsche Cayenne is just as sensless as this Chrysler, by the way, but definitely a better object, while even an uglier one at the same time.

@lokidog5.
the accent story was a bit of a joke because i don’t like it (i have a hyundai getz, bought cause were cheap and is a clever little car.
Build a good cheap little car is hard because…they have to be small and cheap. This spoils a lot of things, because you have to make all the comforts (abs, air con, tc, airbags, etc etc) smaller and lighter but they have to be good and reliable as on every other car. Same thing about crash safety, where you have a lot of space less too. Ride comfort is difficult to archive cause the chassis is short and stiff and suspension aren’t too much complicate cause they have to be cheap to stay lower with the price tag. For the same reason the sportiness and driving pleasure is hard to archive. Then there is interior quality, in terms of reliability and in terms of feelings, perceived quality. Again same story as above. So to archive all this stuff on a little car, and they do it,car makers have to engineer a lot.
VW is not the most affordable european maker, and the Smart is useful only if you have to move a lot inside the city and don’t need boot space (at all).
Car price is a two way problem because american cars prices grows a lot across the ocean. For example the entry level ‘vette there costs 37.327E (49.515$) while in Italy costs 66.190E. (calculated on official site price and actual money value). Well, now i’m curious to see how goes the fiat/chrysler agree, cause they say that they will build the cars there so prices will be competitive, and if sales go well the other two will probably increase eu models on the market. the big question, is how fiat can manage the enormous number of badge, cause many of them are in direct competition.
And lastly for the rich people discourse i wanted to mean that the corporate, and upper middle class buy’s a lot of german cars, and those are famous for their quality and reliability.
Really rich people can be lunatics and buy every senseless thing they want

Awesome! When is that going to be released – I want one!!! – To all the haters, Chryslers are never going to be as precise or well engineered as BMW’s or Mercedes, but then again, they cost loads less, come better equiped, and lets face it – they have far more style than the common German rep-mobiles, having been in one of the current 300c’s – it turns heads, whereas a 5 series or e-class just blends into the background, you dont get the same feel good factor as you get from the 300c.

You only have one life, why live it in a boring predictable way…….

Taste in styling is a personal thing & has nothing at all to do with functionality or quality. I quite like the old 300C (I own two of them including an SRT8) but I’m not overwhelmed by the new style. The old interiors are stark but they are supremely comfortable & durable.

From the commentary, I suspect that virtually none of the posters have actually driven, let alone owned a 300C. I see some comments that suggest that a few posters have driven lesser versions of the car & reported them as being the C version.

The cars, in actuallity, are brutally powerfull, supremely comfortable, surprisingly nimble, have excellent brakes and are astonishingly effective touring cars. They are not especially economical but neither are they terrible in that regard.

My original C is an ‘05 model & I still have it after 200K km. It has given me exactly zero problems — none whatsoever and still looks and drives like it did when new. I have found no reason to replace it. With the speed limiters de-programmed the ‘05 hits 155 mph & the ‘08 SRT8 can touch an amazing 170.

In North America no European sedan can touch these cars for the combination of performance, utility, price and reliability. BMWs and Jaguars are expensive, cramped, uncomfortable, inconvenient and horribly costly to repair (if you can find a dealer). I don’t give a rats patootie if Europeans don’t like the 300C — I’ll keep mine thank you.

Well, I suspect that one should be quite bonkers to spend that amount of money on an object he doesn’t like.
But one thing that US ctizens usually overlook when talking with others about cars is the shape of what’s around it:
In my area there’s nothing that looks like a big American flat horizon, or a more than three lines highway, therefore cars this big are the opposite of utility or performance near the Alps, while they tend to have rust spots very quickly.

…That said the local dealer still managed to sell one 300 last year, and one crossfire as well. On a basis of roughly half a million citizens covered by that dealer that’s not so bad, I suppose.

to paddybrit:

Actually some of us have driven them. I brought in my 01 c-class and was loaned a 300c (not the srt8) and coming from an 01 c-class which is nothing spectacular, I was not impressed. Yes Its huge, but i must say in a bad way. I felt like I could get lost reaching for the glove compartment. But POWER, maybe the srt 8 but not a regular one. I found nothing remarkable at all about the power especially for such a big car and the handling was brutle, not nimble. I would put that 01 c-class against it any day for power and its delivery as well as its ride. Not to mention the quality of materials is rubbish(not that build quality of merc is much better, At ALL!)

100% agree with Staltz.
Drive european ones (not just merzes) THEN decide IF US-limos are better than EU-limos in ANY field except going straight AND very slow while big… and straight+slow+space inside+American = full spec Ford Transit or GMc van, anyway.

I’d say this Chrysler looks disgusting compared to the old 300c. The interiors nice though.

5 of these or an Aston Rapide? what a stupid question: A Rapide!!!

110% to Woody 1994;

The Aston Rapide is amazing compared to the tacky-looking new 300c, plus it’s amazing anyway, Who would want 5 300c’s?

5 300c’s or a Lamborghini Estoque? Another stupid question: An Estoque!

Current economic climate + Chrysler… Errrmmm well (cough), when u put those 2 in a sentence together u don’t really get much positive feedback from it do you? So first objective for them is to try and ride out the recession. Second objective is to then try and hit the European car market as hard as possible and if they didn’t do it the first time with the 300c I don’t think they will have much chance this time either and if an American rapper with a lovely bling chain round his neck wishes to buy a big saloon car no doubt he will just buy a Rolls Royce Phantom. Chrysler please give up with the 300c and bring us some fresh ideas. Does anybody know what happened to the Chrysler ME 4 12? was it just a concept or did it go into production?

Crap cars.

Nuff said

all this arguing is petty between eu cars and us cars. they all design there cars on there own domestic markets. its bonus if they do well on the other side of the pond. personnally im not a fan of the new 300c prefered the predicessor. but i tell ya what though, if they made a hybrid version it’l go a storm with whole celeb ethic on climate change, it kill off there love for the prius.

…it seemed to me that GM and Ford made and make quite many “cars for the European market”, so it’s quite funny to notice that some US citizens assume that European brands wouldn’t make the kind of cars that American customers would buy

3 liters = Too thirsty for 21st Century in the UE. OK for expensive cars, not ok if the running costs are supposed to stay low.
Some Americans still want cheap 5 liter V8 blocks: if they don’t have petrol in their own field, dream on.

Black and chrome, enough said…

I love Chrysler. But don’t get me wrong here. I also loved the Peugeot 405 MI 16 x 4, and the Daewoo Leganza. Until I drove one.
The thing with Chrysler is this. We are used to seeing and driving European Cars. Even when we want to think extravaganza we think of Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and Porsches, which are: European.
But if you ever end up in the US, your eyes are assaulted with ‘alien’ shapes on the tarmac that look a bit… ugh. How do I describe them properly? They don’t exactly hurt your eyes but they don’t exactly do the opposite either. They just look… different. And different is something that any motorist craves for. Yes, every time something new comes out our hands salivate at the mere contempt of touching the gear knob or holding that steering wheel with the left hand while the right one is simultaneously busy trying to make the handbrake come out of the moonroof. Unless you live in Britain of course, then it would be your left hand firmly trying to dig out the handbrake.
Then there is the fact that American cars are not only different, but that some of them do score a point or two, if only you know under which category those points fit. They’re not exactly art but they’re cool. They’re not exactly technological masterpieces but they’re, again, cool. They’re not necessarily fast but, once again, they’re cool. Until you hit the speed cutoff and the car jerks off on the highway, making your eyes fall on the rear view mirror, where you notice a parade of police cars flashing their lights, while the police officers in the passenger seats are maticulously aiming the infrared scopes of their silenced guns at the back of your head. But let’s get back to the subject, shall we?
Chrysler, makes American cars. They look different. Like all American cars, really. I’d love to spend a day in a rented Chrysler, but I wouldn’t exactly go out and buy one. Not even if I lived in the US. They have plenty of VW Golfs on sale there. Sure, the leather and the seats are cozy, all the cars have air con, the dials and knobs on the dashboard are cool, the V8 engines sound exactly right, the acceleration is always fun, cruising down the highway is smoother than surfing, … but I still wouldn’t buy one.
Why?
Here is why: American cars aren’t exactly on the sane side of fuel economy. And when they break down, it takes a fortune to diagnose the problem even with a Cray XI super hyper computer. Then a miracle to actually repair it. If you can find the right parts. And someone familiar with the workings of the third most important part of the American Dream. Then there is the thing I hate the most about American cars: The ride. I won’t complain much about the V8s that can only do 170 kph with all the dials in the red zone because yes, 170 is way above the legal speed limit. And I won’t complain about the fuel guzzling any more because the S Class 600 is not exactly a prophet in that aspect, and it’s European. And we want to be proud of the S class. But the ride on American cars is the most ridiculous thing ever. The machines ride like boats. They literally float on the road and every time you steer, you cross your fingers wondering if the car will understeer, oversteer, skid sideways, roll over, or what exactly. It’s not exactly as firm as a Benz or even a Golf. But the reason for this is clear: all American cars are equipped with cupholders, so obviously Americans are concerned about spilling their drinks. That’s why they use Jelly for their suspension.
Ok, so maybe it isn’t that bad, after all, you would have to go to extremes to lose control of the car. And in the US, you only go forward, backward, or park the car. And in the US, they don’t exactly think much of the rest of the world because clearly, it should all belong to them. So why change the suspension on their cars if they can change the road systems in other countries?
I lived in Canada a while ago. And I used to drive things like the Mazda 323 or the Honda civic until it hit me one day: I never actually drove a Chrysler. And to be honest, I never drove a Chrysler because the old 300 scared me. It just didn’t look right. But I could never know until I tried, now, could I?
So I rented a Chrysler Sebring. It’s basically a small 300. It looks a lot more moderate in shape, unlike its shark brother. It has a moderate 2.4 V6, which sounds right too. It handled right about fine, driving through city traffic, even on two way traffic highways, handling turns smoothly and comfortably while I sat back and listened to my Pink Floyd CD. The air con, the leather seats, and the cruise control all helped the relaxed attitude. Until, at 110 kph, I hit a somewhat tricky bend. It isn’t one of those swiss jobs which scare the heebee jeebees out of you when you drive by at 20 kph because there is nothing between you and an edge overlooking a hideous 1000 meter drop into the abyss. The shoulder was plenty wide. And no other car was coming in a head on collision course. I was in fact on my own, and the turn was merely some 30 or 40 degrees right, streched over a reasonable 100 or 200 meters, which frankly looked wide. I was used to doing that turn at more than 140 in my fourth generation Golf Gti, and I never even heard the tires squeel. So I never imagined the Sebring will be dramatic at 110 kph. But then my imagination failed me, as had the car, when I started feeling the grip loosening up and the rear end start dancing up and down. It wouldn’t have been so bad if the suspension wasn’t so bouncy because as I tried to correct the steering, every time the car looked in the right direction and I tried to give it a punch of gas, it bounced and I lost grip again, so this was not so much fun. Luckily no other car was coming, because the sebring decided it wants to perform an audition for a Circus. After a couple of 360s, it ended up parked on the shoulder, as if to tell me, with authority: don’t do this again. And I never have because 30 minutes later the Chrysler was parked in front of the rental office, and I was inside my Golf, kissing the steering wheel, caressing the handbrake, and praying silently, ‘God Bless German cars, and nothing else…”

it does look like a ganster car but a quatreportte looks like a italian ganster car

did i spell quatroporrte wrong ???